Once again, thanks so much to Kdramadaydreamer for typing up this transcript in her own time. Also because the theme of this episode ended up becoming ableism in K-dramas, it makes me especially happy to post this transcript, in the hopes that it might be enjoyed by someone who is unable to listen to the pod in its usual form. – Anisa
Intro: I’m Saya, and you’re listening to Dramas Over Flowers! Welcome back for another Long Yak. We start off by answering a listener email about how to get involved in the fandom. Moving on to what we are watching, you can hear our take on nearly all of the new shows that premiered. It’s a long list: we talk about The Last Empress, Top Star Yoo Baek, Clean with Passion for Now, Red Moon Blue Sun (also called Children of Nobody), and we take a really fleeting peak at Memories of the Alhambra. We also wrap up our thoughts on departing shows Where Stars Land, aka Fox Bride Star, Terius Behind Me, The Beauty Inside, The Smile Has Left Your Eyes, aka 100 Million Stars Falling from the Sky, and Familiar Wife. Feel free to use the time stamps to navigate the episode. Enjoy! See you on the other side…
Time Stamps: 00:01:17 – Anisa’s paper on Korea CURRENTLY WATCHING DRAMAS — 00:09:07 – MY STRANGE HERO 00:26:52 – BOYFRIEND/ENCOUNTER 00:39:21 – THE LAST EMPRESS 00:46:21 – MEMORIES 00:56:43 – JUST DANCE/DANCE SPORTS GIRLS 01:00:16 – TOP STAR YOO BAEK 01:09:47 – MY AJUSSHI 01:13:54 – RED MOON BLUE SUN 01:20:20 – TIMELESS 01:25:24 – MEN ON A MISSION 01:28:51 – YOUTH OVER FLOWERS UPCOMING DRAMAS — 01:32:53 – THE CROWNED CLOWN 01:35:54 – NEIGHBOURHOOD LAWYER 2 01:36:53 – WHAT’S WRONG POONG-SANG/LIVER OR DIE 01:39:34 – SPRING TURNS TO SPRING 01:42:17 – KINGDOM (Netflix) 01:45:01 – ROMANCE IS A BONUS BOOK 01:48:09 – TOUCH YOUR HEART QS OF THE YAK — 01:53:10 – WHAT DRAMA DID YOU HATE BUT KEPT WATCHING?
Here’s a link to the video about “Da Kine” that Anisa mentions when she talks about Top Star Yoo Baek and “geoshigi”. Shoutout to Dramabeans beanie PakalanaPikake for sharing it with us – thank you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxdy6SaeDTQ
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Hello, friends! We’re really excited to bring you the first of a series of transcriptions of the podcast, which our friend Paige (aka Kdramadaydreamer) has very kindly offered to do for the benefit of those who may not be able to enjoy Dramas Over Flowers in its audio format. Please join us in thanking her for this incredible effort! ❤︎
This first one is our episode on the #MeToo movement in Korea, problematic tropes in K-dramas, and how things might be changing, featuring guests Odessa Jones and Pogo. Enjoy!
Episode 16. Men Behaving Badly Transcript
Originally published May 28, 2018.
Intro: Hi everyone! This is Anisa, and you’re listening to Stars in My Pocket. The title probably gave it away, but we’re doing something a little different with this episode. As a podcast that talks about TV, movies, the entertainment industry, what we love about these stories and what sometimes drives us nuts about them, we wanted to take a deeper dive into the post-Harvey Weinstein discussion than we’ve been able to so far. I’m joined by two very special guests this time: Odessa Jones is back with us, and we welcome our friend Pogo for the first time. Paroma will occasionally pipe in as well, but Saya was, unfortunately, not able to this time. We’ll discuss what the #MeToo movement has looked like in Korea and elsewhere, specific cases of terrible men in Korean entertainment, and separating the art from the artist. We also talk about problematic tropes in K-dramas – you know the ones– how K-dramas have changed in recent years, and our hopes for the future. We also recommend some shows with nice heroes. Take a listen!Continue reading →
In our last Long Yak of 2018, we cover a bunch of recently completed dramas, express our expectations of newly airing ones, and notice a strong theme of ableism in Korean dramas lately—if a male lead isn’t perfectly perfect in body and mind, he can’t be a hero.
This month we start off by discussing the sudden shut down of DramaFever, what this means for the international viewership, how and when the licensing wars started in the KDrama world, and how fans access dramas when official channels are unavailable.
We also talk about the Canadian sitcom, Kim’s Convenience, which totally counts as a KDrama in our hearts!
TIME STAMPS – NEWS:
00:01:17 – DramaFever Shut Down
00:34:04 – Our Episode 16 on #MeToo Was Used in a University Classroom!
00:35:28 – We Now Have a Patreon Page! CURRENTLY WATCHING DRAMAS:
00:40:01 – Where Stars Land/Fox Bride Star (Paroma’s post on Flawed Female Leads)
00:56:08 – Beauty Inside
01:05:32 – Terius Behind Me
01:12:35 – Player
01:17:28 – Ghost Detective
01:19:35 – Smile Has Left Your Eyes
01:29:43 – Kim’s Convenience UPCOMING DRAMAS:
01:44:19 – Mama Fairy and the WoodCutter
01:46:38 – Feel Good to Die/Happy if You Died
01:48:28 – God’s Quiz
01:49:56 – Top Star Yoo Baek
01:52:43 – The Priest
01:54:47 – Bad Detective
01:56:44 – Clean With Passion For Now GOODBYES:
02:04:06 – Saya’s Dad Joke
Get in touch!
DOF Twitter: @dramasoverflow
Saya’s Twitter: @notnowsaya
Anisa’s Twitter: @laica_k
Paroma’s Twitter: @festerfaster
Anisa and Paroma get greenfields (Rimi) and Sicarius to come tell us why Kpop is taking over the world, and how things work behind the scenes in the Korean music industry. (Links under the timestamps)
00:02:43 – Woes of Being a Kpop fan outside US
00:04:13 – Is Kpop a genre?
00:07:01 – Are Drama OSTs Kpop?
00:11:17 – How did you two come to this fandom?
00:16:59 – What is a Bias?
00:18:21 – Why Seventeen has 13 members
00:21:46 – Are Band dynamics scripted?
00:25:04 – Korean language lends itself well to rapping
00:27:39 – why Kpop rap is different from american/indian rap
00:32:07 – Conflict between an idol and a rapper
00:37:50 – Why are boybands more popular than girl groups internationally
00:40:46 – why do rimi and sica like boy bands more
00:44:24 – bromancey gimmicks on stage
00:46:15 – girl groups subjected to the male gaze
00:48:36 – how fangirls are maligned
00:50:54 – Toxic fandom and sasaengs
00:51:57 – When fans dictate what artists do
00:54:18 – HyunA and E’Dawn leaving Cube
00:55:52 – why companies promote fan obsession?
00:57:52 – slave contracts and lawsuits
01:01:19 – The East Light controversy
01:04:37 – why speaking the truth is hard under Korean Law
01:07:39 – Self produced artists
01:13:53 – opportunities for marginalised artists like Holland
01:17:27 – Do Kdramas portray idols well?
01:19:14 – Drama: SHUT UP FLOWER BOY BAND
01:20:58 – Drama: BEST HIT
01:22:52 – Suga’s mixtapes about the idol trainee life
01:25:20 – Favourite Groups